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Panasonic HC-VX870 vs Panasonic HC-X920 vs Sony HDR-PJ810

Panasonic HC-VX870 vs Panasonic HC-X920 vs Sony HDR-PJ810

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Panasonic HC-VX870
Panasonic HC-X920
Sony HDR-PJ810

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Reasons For

2 Reasons For
A lot bigger optical zoom Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 20x (optical) camcorder, whereas the Panasonic HC-X920 and the Sony HDR-PJ810 are both only 12x (optical) camcorders (8x smaller). Read more

An optical zoom lets you enlarge the subject without having to move closer to it.

An optical zoom lets you zoom without loosing image quality. Digital zooms will simply enlarge the pixels and make the image look blurry.

10lx smaller minimum illumination Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 has a minimum illumination of 2lx, whereas the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 12lx minimum illumination camcorder (10lx bigger) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 3lx minimum illumination camcorder (1lx bigger).
12 Reasons For
19.37MP bigger total megapixels Edit
Panasonic HC-X920 is 38.28MP sensor, but the Panasonic HC-VX870 is only an 18.91MP sensor camcorder (19.37MP smaller) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is only a 24.5MP sensor camcorder (13.78MP smaller). Read more

A megapixel (MP or Mpx) is one million pixels, and is a term used not only for the number of pixels in an image, but also to express the number of image sensor elements of digital cameras or the number of display elements of digital displays. For example, a camera that makes a 2048 1536 pixel image typically uses a few extra rows and columns of sensor elements and is commonly said to have "3.2 megapixels" or "3.4 megapixels", depending on whether the number reported is the "effective" or the "total" pixel count (as opposed to the 2048 1536 = 3,145,728 finished image pixels).

A larger number of megapixels increases the sharpness of images and video.

1.49MP higher effective megapixels (image) Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 is an 8.49MP camcorder. That's 1.49MP higher than the Panasonic HC-VX870 ().
0.2MP higher effective megapixels (movie) Edit
Panasonic HC-X920 is 8.49MP (movie mode), but the Panasonic HC-VX870 is only an 8.29MP (movie mode) camcorder (0.2MP lower).
Built-in flash Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 has a built-in flash, whereas the Sony HDR-PJ810 does not.
0.5" larger display diagonal Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 is a 3.5" screen size camcorder, whereas the Panasonic HC-VX870 and the Sony HDR-PJ810 are both only 3" screen size camcorders (0.5" smaller). Read more

Display diagonal of the camcorder's build in display.

A larger display diagonal makes it easier to record and review video and images.

691,200 pixels higher display resolution (numeric) Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 has a display resolution (numeric) of 1,152,000 pixels, however the Panasonic HC-VX870 is only a 460,800 pixels display resolution camcorder (691,200 pixels lower) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is only a 921,000 pixels display resolution camcorder (231,000 pixels lower). Read more

Total number of pixels that display has.

3D Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 is 3D, whereas the Sony HDR-PJ810 is not.
2x lighter Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 is a 189g weight camcorder. That's 164g lighter than the Panasonic HC-VX870 (460g) and 271g lighter than the Sony HDR-PJ810 (460g). Read more

Weight of the camcorder including battery.

A lighter camcorder is easier to handle when recording and to carry when travelling.

$694 cheaper
The Panasonic HC-X920 is $694.21 cheaper than the Sony HDR-PJ810.
Available from 6 shops
A greater number of retailers increases the price competition amongst retailers for this camcorder and also increases the chances of the product remaining in stock.
Seven more awards
The Panasonic HC-X920 has 8 awards, but the Panasonic HC-VX870 has 1 award and the Sony HDR-PJ810 has 1 award.
Expert reviews are slightly better
Based on 17 expert reviews, the Panasonic HC-X920 has an average review score of 91%, whereas the Panasonic HC-VX870 has an average rating of 83% (based on 6 reviews) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 has an average rating of 90% (based on 2 reviews).
3 Reasons For
Bigger digital zoom Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 160x (digital) camcorder. That's 100x bigger than the Panasonic HC-VX870 (160x) and 120x bigger than the Panasonic HC-X920 (160x). Read more

A digital zoom enlarges the pixels in a digital image to make the subject appear closer. Using digital zoom can result in images becoming blurry as the underlying image remains the same.

A digital zoom allows you to enlarge a subject without having to move closer. Digital zoom can be used as an alternative to an optical zoom, although it will result in a loss of image quality.

Interchangeable lens Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 has an interchangeable lens, whereas the Panasonic HC-X920 does not have an interchangeable lens. Read more

The lens in the device can be swapped round.

An interchangeable lens system allows the user to use alternative lenses which might be better suited for a shoot than a standard lens.

User reviews are better
The Sony HDR-PJ810 has an average user review score of 97% based on 29 reviews, but the Panasonic HC-VX870 has an average rating of 83% (based on 14 reviews) and the Panasonic HC-X920 has an average rating of 90% (based on 127 reviews).

Reasons Against

11 Reasons Against
19.37MP smaller total megapixels Edit
Panasonic HC-VX870 is only 18.91MP sensor, but the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 38.28MP sensor camcorder (19.37MP bigger) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 24.5MP sensor camcorder (5.59MP bigger). Read more

A megapixel (MP or Mpx) is one million pixels, and is a term used not only for the number of pixels in an image, but also to express the number of image sensor elements of digital cameras or the number of display elements of digital displays. For example, a camera that makes a 2048 1536 pixel image typically uses a few extra rows and columns of sensor elements and is commonly said to have "3.2 megapixels" or "3.4 megapixels", depending on whether the number reported is the "effective" or the "total" pixel count (as opposed to the 2048 1536 = 3,145,728 finished image pixels).

A larger number of megapixels increases the sharpness of images and video.

1.49MP lower effective megapixels (image) Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 7MP camcorder. That's 1.49MP lower than the Panasonic HC-X920 ().
0.2MP lower effective megapixels (movie) Edit
Panasonic HC-VX870 is only 8.29MP (movie mode), but the Panasonic HC-X920 is an 8.49MP (movie mode) camcorder (0.2MP higher).
2x smaller digital zoom Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 has a digital zoom of 60x. That's 20x bigger than the Panasonic HC-X920 (160x) and 100x smaller than the Sony HDR-PJ810 (160x). Read more

A digital zoom enlarges the pixels in a digital image to make the subject appear closer. Using digital zoom can result in images becoming blurry as the underlying image remains the same.

A digital zoom allows you to enlarge a subject without having to move closer. Digital zoom can be used as an alternative to an optical zoom, although it will result in a loss of image quality.

0.5" smaller display diagonal Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 3" screen size camcorder (as does the Sony HDR-PJ810), whereas the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 3.5" screen size camcorder (0.5" larger). Read more

Display diagonal of the camcorder's build in display.

A larger display diagonal makes it easier to record and review video and images.

Two times lower display resolution (numeric) Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 has a display resolution (numeric) of 460,800 pixels, however the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 1,152,000 pixels display resolution camcorder (691,200 pixels higher) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 921,000 pixels display resolution camcorder (460,200 pixels higher). Read more

Total number of pixels that display has.

Heavier Edit
The Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 353g weight camcorder. That's 164g heavier than the Panasonic HC-X920 (460g) and 107g lighter than the Sony HDR-PJ810 (460g). Read more

Weight of the camcorder including battery.

A lighter camcorder is easier to handle when recording and to carry when travelling.

Fewer sellers
Only 1 shop sell the Panasonic HC-VX870, but 7 stores sell the Panasonic HC-X920. Read more
The smaller the number of retailers that stock this camcorder, the lower the competition amongst retailers to keep prices low.
Fewer awards
Whilst the Panasonic HC-VX870 has received 1 award, the Panasonic HC-X920 has received 8 awards.
Lower expert review Score
The average expert rating of the Panasonic HC-VX870 is 83%, whereas the average expert rating of the Panasonic HC-X920 is 91% (based on 17 reviews) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is 90% (based on 2 reviews).
Appreciably Lower user review Score
The average user rating of the Panasonic HC-VX870 is 83%, whereas the average user rating of the Panasonic HC-X920 is 90% (based on 127 reviews) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is 97% (based on 29 reviews).
5 Reasons Against
Significantly smaller optical zoom Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 is a 12x (optical) camcorder (as does the Sony HDR-PJ810), whereas the Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 20x (optical) camcorder (8x bigger). Read more

An optical zoom lets you enlarge the subject without having to move closer to it.

An optical zoom lets you zoom without loosing image quality. Digital zooms will simply enlarge the pixels and make the image look blurry.

Smaller digital zoom Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 has a digital zoom of 40x. That's 20x smaller than the Panasonic HC-VX870 (160x) and 120x smaller than the Sony HDR-PJ810 (160x). Read more

A digital zoom enlarges the pixels in a digital image to make the subject appear closer. Using digital zoom can result in images becoming blurry as the underlying image remains the same.

A digital zoom allows you to enlarge a subject without having to move closer. Digital zoom can be used as an alternative to an optical zoom, although it will result in a loss of image quality.

10lx bigger minimum illumination Edit
The Panasonic HC-X920 has a minimum illumination of 12lx, whereas the Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 2lx minimum illumination camcorder (10lx smaller) and the Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 3lx minimum illumination camcorder (9lx smaller).
Over one year older
The Panasonic HC-X920 is older than the Panasonic HC-VX870 by 14 months.
Lower user review Score
The average user rating of the Panasonic HC-X920 is 90%, whereas the average user rating of the Sony HDR-PJ810 is 97% (based on 29 reviews).
12 Reasons Against
Vastly smaller total megapixels Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 has a total megapixels of 24.5MP, however the Panasonic HC-VX870 is an 18.91MP sensor camcorder (5.59MP smaller) and the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 38.28MP sensor camcorder (13.78MP bigger). Read more

A megapixel (MP or Mpx) is one million pixels, and is a term used not only for the number of pixels in an image, but also to express the number of image sensor elements of digital cameras or the number of display elements of digital displays. For example, a camera that makes a 2048 1536 pixel image typically uses a few extra rows and columns of sensor elements and is commonly said to have "3.2 megapixels" or "3.4 megapixels", depending on whether the number reported is the "effective" or the "total" pixel count (as opposed to the 2048 1536 = 3,145,728 finished image pixels).

A larger number of megapixels increases the sharpness of images and video.

8x smaller optical zoom Edit
Sony HDR-PJ810 is only 12x (optical) (as does the Panasonic HC-X920), but the Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 20x (optical) camcorder (8x bigger). Read more

An optical zoom lets you enlarge the subject without having to move closer to it.

An optical zoom lets you zoom without loosing image quality. Digital zooms will simply enlarge the pixels and make the image look blurry.

Does not have a built-in flash Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 does not have a built-in flash, whereas the Panasonic HC-X920 has a built-in flash.
Smaller display diagonal Edit
Sony HDR-PJ810 is only 3" screen size (as does the Panasonic HC-VX870), but the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 3.5" screen size camcorder (0.5" larger). Read more

Display diagonal of the camcorder's build in display.

A larger display diagonal makes it easier to record and review video and images.

A lot lower display resolution (numeric) Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 921,000 pixels display resolution camcorder, whereas the Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 460,800 pixels display resolution camcorder (460,200 pixels lower) and the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 1,152,000 pixels display resolution camcorder (231,000 pixels higher). Read more

Total number of pixels that display has.

A lot bigger minimum illumination Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 has a minimum illumination of 3lx, but the Panasonic HC-VX870 is a 2lx minimum illumination camcorder (1lx smaller) and the Panasonic HC-X920 is a 12lx minimum illumination camcorder (9lx bigger).
59% heavier Edit
The Sony HDR-PJ810 is a 460g weight camcorder. That's 107g heavier than the Panasonic HC-VX870 (460g) and 271g heavier than the Panasonic HC-X920 (460g). Read more

Weight of the camcorder including battery.

A lighter camcorder is easier to handle when recording and to carry when travelling.

$694 more expensive
The Sony HDR-PJ810 is more expensive than the Panasonic HC-X920 by $694.21.
Not as many stockists
Only 1 store sell the Sony HDR-PJ810, however 7 sellers sell the Panasonic HC-X920. Read more
Smaller numbers of stores reduces the chances of this camcorder remaining in stock and also reduces the price competition amongst retailers for the product.
Over one year older
The Sony HDR-PJ810 is older than the Panasonic HC-VX870 by 21 months and older than the Panasonic HC-X920 by seven months.
Fewer awards
Whilst the Sony HDR-PJ810 has received 1 award, the Panasonic HC-X920 has received 8 awards.
A little Lower expert review Score
The Sony HDR-PJ810 has an average expert rating of 90%, but the Panasonic HC-X920 has an average expert rating of 91% (based on 17 reviews).

Awards

1 Award
Trusted Reviews: Recommended
8 Awards
camcorderinfo.com: Editor's Choice
Digital Versus: 5 Star
Expert Reviews: Best Buy
Les Numeriques.com: 5 Star
plusxaward.de: Innovation and Ease of Use
Pocket Lint: Recommended
reviewed.com: Editor's Choice
Trusted Reviews: Editor's Choice
1 Award
altomdata.dk: Recommended

Average Expert Rating

Average User Rating

Date Released

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Image Sensor

Total Megapixels
18.91MP 38.28MP
BEST
24.5MP
Optical Sensor Size
 1/2
BEST
 1/2
BEST
 1/2
Sensor Type
 MOS
 MOS
 MOS
Effective Megapixels (image)
7MP 8.49MP
BEST
Unknown - Click to provide data
Effective Megapixels (movie)
8.29MP 8.49MP
BEST
Unknown - Click to provide data

Lens System

Optical Zoom
20x
BEST
12x 12x
Digital Zoom
60x 40x 160x
BEST
Image Stabilizer
 Image stabilizer
 Image stabilizer
 Image stabilizer
Interchangeable Lens
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Interchangeable lens
 Interchangeable lens
BEST
Image Stabilizer Type
 Optical
 Optical
 Optical
BEST
Maximum Focal Length (35mm Film Equiv)
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data 34.8mm
Minimum Focal Length (35mm Film Equiv)
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data 2.9mm
Filter Size
49mm 49mm Unknown - Click to provide data
Focal Length (35mm Film Equivalent)
30.8 - 626 29.8 - 399.2 2.9 - 34.8
Focal Length Range (f-F)
4.08 - 81.6 2.84 - 34.1 1.8 - 3.4
Wide Angle Lens System
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Wide angle lens system
Lens Mount Interface
 Leica M
 Leica M
 Leica M

Storage

Memory Slots
1 1 Unknown - Click to provide data
Compatible Memory Cards
 SDXC
 SDHC
 SD
 MS PRO
 MS PRO Duo
 MS Pro-HG
 MSXC
 SDXC
 SDHC
 SD
 MS PRO
 MS PRO Duo
 MS Pro-HG
 MSXC
 SDXC
 SDHC
 SD
 MS PRO
 MS PRO Duo
 MS Pro-HG
 MSXC
Camcorder Media Type
 Memory card
 Memory card
 Memory card

Focusing

Face Detection
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Face detection
Focus Adjustment
 Auto
 Manual
 Auto
 Manual
 Auto
 Manual
Smile Detection
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Smile detection

Light Exposure

Scene Modes
 Beach
 Snow
 Fireworks
 Landscape
 Portrait
 Spotlight
 Beach
 Snow
 Fireworks
 Landscape
 Portrait
 Spotlight
 Beach
 Snow
 Fireworks
 Landscape
 Portrait
 Spotlight

White Balance

Outdoor White Balance
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Outdoor white balance
Indoor White Balance
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Indoor white balance
 Indoor white balance
Onepush White Balance
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Onepush white balance
White Balance
 Auto
 Cloudy
 Daylight
 Sunny
 Indoor
 Outdoor
 Auto
 Cloudy
 Daylight
 Sunny
 Indoor
 Outdoor
 Auto
 Cloudy
 Daylight
 Sunny
 Indoor
 Outdoor

Flash

Built-In Flash
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Built-in flash
BEST
 Built-in flash
Built-In Light
 Built-in light
 Built-in light
 Built-in light

Shutter

Shutter Speed (video)
Unknown - Click to provide data 1/25 - 1/8000 Unknown - Click to provide data
Shutter Speed (photo)
Unknown - Click to provide data 1/2 - 1/2000 Unknown - Click to provide data
Camera Shutter Speed
0.000125 - 0.04 Unknown - Click to provide data 1/10000

Display

Display Diagonal
3" 3.5"
BEST
3"
Built-In Display
 Built-in display
 Built-in display
 Built-in display
Touchscreen
 Touchscreen
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Touchscreen
Display Resolution (numeric)
460,800 pixels 1,152,000 pixels
BEST
921,000 pixels
Display
 LCD
 LCD
 LCD

Viewfinder

Viewfinder Type
 Not available
 Not available
 Not available

Camera

Camcorder Type
 handheld
 handheld
 handheld
3D
Unknown - Click to provide data
 3D
BEST
 3D
On Screen Display (OSD)
Unknown - Click to provide data
 On Screen Display (OSD)
Unknown - Click to provide data
Image Processor
 BIONZ
 BIONZ
 BIONZ
BEST
Minimum Illumination
2lx
BEST
12lx 3lx
On Screen Display (OSD) Languages
 DUT
 CZE
 ENG
 FRE
 ITA
 POL
 ESP
 SWE
 TUR
 HUN
 DUT
 CZE
 ENG
 FRE
 ITA
 POL
 ESP
 SWE
 TUR
 HUN
 DUT
 CZE
 ENG
 FRE
 ITA
 POL
 ESP
 SWE
 TUR
 HUN
Remotely Operated
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Remotely operated

Design

Colour
 Black
 Black
 Black

Video

Full HD
 Full HD
 Full HD
 Full HD
HD Type
 Full HD
 Full HD
 Full HD
Supported Video Modes
 1080p
 1080p
BEST
 1080p
Video Formats Supported
 MP4
 MPEG
 MPEG4
 H.264
 AVCHD
 AVC
 MP4
 MPEG
 MPEG4
 H.264
 AVCHD
 AVC
 MP4
 MPEG
 MPEG4
 H.264
 AVCHD
 AVC
Video Resolutions
 1920 x 1080
 1440 x 1080
 1280 x 720
 1920 x 1080
 1440 x 1080
 1280 x 720
BEST
 1920 x 1080
 1440 x 1080
 1280 x 720
BEST
Maximum Video Resolution
 3840 x 2160
BEST
 3840 x 2160
 3840 x 2160

Still Image

Image Formats Supported
 JPG
 MPO
 JPG
 MPO
BEST
 JPG
 MPO
BEST
Still Image Resolution(s)
 5472 x 3648
 3984 x 2656
 1920 x 1080
 1728 x 1152
 640 x 480
 4096 x 2304
BEST
 5472 x 3648
 3984 x 2656
 1920 x 1080
 1728 x 1152
 640 x 480
 4096 x 2304
 5472 x 3648
 3984 x 2656
 1920 x 1080
 1728 x 1152
 640 x 480
 4096 x 2304
Maximum Image Resolution
 6016 x 3384
 6592 x 3712
 6016 x 3384
 6592 x 3712
 6016 x 3384
 6592 x 3712
BEST

Audio

Built-In Speaker(s)
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Built-in speaker(s)
 Built-in speaker(s)
Built-In Microphone
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Built-in microphone
 Built-in microphone
Audio System
 Dolby Digital 2.0/5.1
BEST
 Dolby Digital 2.0/5.1
BEST
 Dolby Digital 2.0/5.1

Ports & Interfaces

HDMI
 HDMI
 HDMI
 HDMI
Composite Video Out
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Composite video out
USB 2.0 Port
1 1 1
Microphone in
 Microphone in
 Microphone in
 Microphone in
Headphone Outputs
 Headphone outputs
 Headphone outputs
 Headphone outputs
S-Video Out
Unknown - Click to provide data
 S-Video out
 S-Video out
PictBridge
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 PictBridge
Mini HDMI Port
Unknown - Click to provide data 1 Unknown - Click to provide data

Networking

Wi-Fi
 Wi-Fi
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Wi-Fi
Ethernet LAN
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Ethernet LAN
Near Field Communication (NFC)
 Near Field Communication (NFC)
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Near Field Communication (NFC)
Bluetooth
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Bluetooth

Battery

Battery Type
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data NP-FV50
Battery Voltage
3.6V 7.2V Unknown - Click to provide data
Battery Capacity
1,940mAh
BEST
1,250mAh Unknown - Click to provide data
Battery Technology
 Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)
BEST
 Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)
 Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)

Weight & Dimensions

Weight
353g 189g
BEST
460g
Height
73mm 59mm 72.5mm
Depth
139mm 82mm 134mm
Width
65mm 73mm 67.5mm

Packaging Content

Batteries Included
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Batteries included
 Batteries included
Quick Start Guide
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Quick start guide
 Quick start guide
Bundled Software
Unknown - Click to provide data HD Writer AE 5.0 PlayMemories Home
Cables Included
 USB
 HDMI
 AV
 USB
 HDMI
 AV
BEST
 USB
 HDMI
 AV
BEST
AC Adapter Included
 AC adapter included
 AC adapter included
 AC adapter included
Handheld Remote Control
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Handheld remote control
Warranty Card
Unknown - Click to provide data
 Warranty card
Unknown - Click to provide data
Lens Hood
 Lens hood
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data

Other Features

Night Mode
 Night mode
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
AV Output
Unknown - Click to provide data
 AV output
Unknown - Click to provide data
Waterproof
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Waterproof
Shock Proof
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Shock proof

Projector

Built-In Projector
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Built-in projector
Projector Brightness
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data 50 ANSI lumens
Minimum Projection Distance
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data 0.5m

Technical Details

Dustproof
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Dustproof
USB Charging
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 USB charging
Freezeproof
Unknown - Click to provide data Unknown - Click to provide data
 Freezeproof
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